Mac II. Powerbook. LC 630. Power Mac. Mac Mini. iPod classic. iMac. iPods mini/nano/classic. iMac again. iBooks x 3. iPhone 3GS. iPhone4. iPad 2.
So, yes, I’m sad today.
Mac II. Powerbook. LC 630. Power Mac. Mac Mini. iPod classic. iMac. iPods mini/nano/classic. iMac again. iBooks x 3. iPhone 3GS. iPhone4. iPad 2.
So, yes, I’m sad today.
Airport router?
I am surprised your first iphone was only the 3GS! Didn’t your former master instruct you on the virtues earlier?
I am not an apple user, but for industrial design and a “just works” UI that is smooth and seamless they are hard to beat. I am happy setting up PCs how I like it (and android phones for that matter) but they are a nightmare if you neither the time or inclination to make it run. Case in point – compare out of box experience for a macbook air to your standard windows laptop. Windows 7 is great (and IMO superior) but your OEM laptop manufacturers just don’t spend the time making the initial turn on “nice”.
What are all these icons on my desktop? Why am I waiting 1 hour for setup to complete? etc etc
Hopefully someone else will take up the mantle Jobs has vacated…
Yep. Airport router. Didnt list peripherals. We’d be here all day.
Oh it will happen… CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE COOK IS ROCKING?!?!!!
IIes brought home from primary school by teaching parentals. Long gap. Strawberry flavoured piece of shit iMac which tried to eat my honours thesis. Black iBook G4, first of a bunch of lappies I didn’t pay for. Couple of iPods. They’re just tools. They work better and are nicer to use than their competitors, but there’s no point getting emotional about them.
I miss the Amiga though. *sob*
Orright. That made me laugh for the first time today.
I tell ya, some of the commenters at Fairfax today…
((Shakes heads sadly))
Oh the Amiga was a great machine. I loved mine – so far ahead of the PCs and Apples of the time. Pity Commodore were shithouse at business though.
My missus would like more Apple products. She has the iPhone, we have three iPods of various sizes, but that’s it. I understand an iPad is in the offing one day.
IIe in 1979 or ’80 in an avante guarde classroom. Much hilarity from typing in rude words. (No GreyBeard, not a classroom for idiot savantes.)
These days a battle-scarred hand-me-down ipod from the Bobette, loaded to the gills with podcasts. Funny my Nokia does my music the ipod does brainfood, I never thought about it ’till now.
No emotional connection with the ibrand, but recognise Saint Jobs’ contribution to puting the P in personal computing.
Hm, anyone considering his beatification yet?
The man was brilliant at marketing – no doubt to that.
If it wasn’t for Jobs picking the diamonds out of Palo Alto we wouldn’t have : the mouse, GUI interfaces and the rest. He didn’t invent them, but he surely knew a good thing when he saw it.
Case in point IIRC – the rubbish bin icon. All Jobs as I hear it. Makes me wonder what they’re going to put on his tombstone. i? @? Or just the apple.
beatification?
Surely apotheosis is more appropriate.
I LOVED my Amiga!
As to Mr. Jobs – his passing is most sad. Way too young and we need all of the uber-capitalists we can get in these sorry economic times.
Made me reread a post I did at the Rhino’s Desk last year about Steve Jobs actually being “The Man”.
In memorium this comment was submitted via iPad whilst sitting on a beach.
I have never been much of an iWhore but I did love my iPod and I have been very sad since it disappeared out of my purse a few weeks ago (pretty sure it fell out somewhere. Oh the lucky person who picks up the stray iPod filled with my Britney and Madonna tunes *sob*). But nevertheless, it’s very sad to hear that someone has been taken fromhis family and the world far too soon. iWhore or not, everyone knows what an influence, visionary and marketing genius Mr Jobs was and will continue to be with the legacy of his company. RIP Steve Jobs.
I’ve always felt that the niche Apple exploited and expanded upon when it saved itself from oblivion – the ‘Think Different’ crowd – was the niche which the Amiga had, and pissed away because CBM couldn’t sell tickets to a pissup in a brewery.
Typed on a Macbook held together around the edges with packing tape
apart from an old mac to write up my honors I have never used them but have always had a love for them because they worked. They also made microsoft better by showing the way. Also loved his attitude of get into it , this ain’t no dress rehersal.
A sad, sad loss. Almost any death is sad but whether he personally invented the Apple creations or not, he led, inspired, selected and steered the creation of some beautiful and incredibly useful kit. He was a creator and a doer on a scale few people can ever aspire to. As Pat said, he forced the competition to innovate (and copy) so whether you use iGear or not, you owe the guy. Perfect people only exist in bad stories so why insist he be ‘saintly’ before we can give him his due. Taken all in all he was a man, and we shall not look upon his like again.
I guess what he did was develop or obtain stuff that worked well and wrap cool designs around it. He understood that the majority of people didn’t want to have to learn how to debug overly written computer programs, they just wanted the machines to work in a friendly way and having them look cool was a nice touch. I think the rest of the field still doesn’t understand this point. His Siri AI is the first step to the next level.
What Greybeard said. Just been perusing the Blunty comments and can’t quite believe the hatin’ thats out there. Prehaps the unintended consequence of Steve Job’s (et al) giving everyone a voice is that we tend to hear most from those with the least to say.
Yeah, Pat. Those comments at Blunty make me sick in the fuckin’ soul. What is up with people?
A joke from The Onion on the passing of Jobs-
http://www.theonion.com/articles/last-american-who-knew-what-the-fuck-he-was-doing,26268/
Classic, LC575, Powerbook, iBook, MacBook, MacBook Pro, pods and phone.
Couldn’t have done shit without them – reliable, user friendly, with an aesthetic that made working on them a joy. My Fairfax-issued Dell laptops practically used to catch fire, and my architecture days desk-top PC used to be about as loud as a B1 Lancer on takeoff, and each had more bugs than than Paris Hilton’s bed-sheets.
RIP Steve, and here’s hoping your company keeps kicking goals for a long time yet.
Just had a look at the hating over at Blunty. I don’t get it. I seriously don’t get why those haters are so full of hate. Its abnormal and shows unbalanced minds.
Tall poppy syndrome took over at Blunty… and he was the tallest poppy.
One of the biggest cheese I can think of.
I wonder what the response will be when the bell tolls for Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg.
Are you guys talking about the Blunty on poker machines or Andrew Splot?
Crikey. That’s some quality hating being thrown ’round over @ Blunty.
There seems a degree of tribalism, with insensitive MBPs (mouth breathing pinheads) violently self identifying as Non iusers. For a long time there was a tribe of iusers, who differentiated themselves by their polished alloy shinies.
I wonder if there are parralells to Manly / Collingwoood supporters who seem to enjoy their broad spectrum dislike?
What? am I going mad? Blunty hate, poker machines…??
Woz in his autobiography iWoz discussed how, if Commodore had offered a couple of percent more, he and Jobs were ready to pack up Apple and go and work for them. So the history of the Amiga in an alternate reality is a different one.
My first serious programming was on an Apple II (I’d done faffing in LOGO with a Commodore Vic 20 and a Commodore 64) – but a lot of early high school was apple basic on the computers at school. Only moved to Pascal on PC around year 10. Wrote some Apple II games and some malware that totally trashed the assignments of a guy who was a prick to me on a regular basis. I did this a few times in high school – to different sets of bullies – nothing like misanthropy and programming ability ;-)
I can’t count how many PCs I’ve had running some variation of Windows (I probably have more powered on in my office now than most people have owned in their life) – but my first laptop was a PowerBook. I wrote a 90K epic on it that I subsequently lost. All that could be said for it was that it was my first long writing project.
Had a Performa at work on helldesk (replaced OS 7 with MKLinux). Was upgraded at work to a beige box G3 (replaced OS 8 with YellowDog Linux). Purchased one of the Bondi iMacs (going OS 9/OSX/OSX10.1 and then eventually YellowDog Linux). Mac Mini (which is still running and which my son currently uses as his homework machine (running Leopard), Macbook Pro running Parallels and then VMWare Fusion, 3 iPods and an iPad.
In my line of work it pays to be “multi-lingual”.
Also, unless you’re Pogue, there’s no $ in writing Mac textboks
Oh ok, just discovered the missing link ;)
Look, can’t hate the poor fellow, have seen a few die from pancreatic cancer and I vote it the cancer anyone’d least like to end up with, trust me. So on that basis alone, haters ought to restrain themselves because his famly would be in a state of trauma.
But the person, Steve Jobs? Never heard of him till a couple of months ago and that was when they sad something about the type of cancer he was living with so , quite frankly, I’m amazed that he lasted in the job as long as he did because clearly he was close to end stage. Amazing, amazing strength.
Apples from way back. I’ve lost track of how many, my main landmark is I remember the upgrade from System 6 to System 7 (which became MacOS), which puts it about 20 years ago. Checking my disk, I still have some files I created in the mid ’90s on a mac, faithfully copied and backed up onto my current system.
He’ll be missed. I’m considering finding a black turtleneck for Oct 14th.
Like Orin I did my first programing using LOGO, but on a Tandy TRS80 in my case. Also like Orin, that was just faffing about.
My first serious coding was cracking games on the school and local library Apple IIe. We would then sell the cracked games to friends with custom startup screens that displayed “cracked by ……”. I wish I could remember the alias I used to go by.
I didn’t touch an Apple product again until I got an iPhone about 3 years ago which I know can’t live without. I like being able to do technical things without a massive amount of technical setup just to be in a position to actually start doing the thing I want to do. The App store concept makes installing the tools simple, which makes using them appealing.
Never been an Apple or Jobs fanboi, I could never be arsed learning how to use all the cool UI tools in a Mac. That said, my iPhone is a brilliantly user friendly, well designed piece of kit that inspires respect.
Hi … I came across you web sit when responding to my continued interest in anything to do with falafels and will be coming to you lecture on the coast in Nov.
However I will try and contribute by the way of cartoons if you want if you give me an email address to send through .jpgs.
Have a look at my cartoons only blog toonopia.blogspot.com and see if it meets your approval.
Tony Lurie
Noosa
eMac..eMac..iMac ..iPhone…iPad
Well an Apple ][ clone, so not even that I guess. Not a fan of their system, but it works for others, it’s right for them, not for me.
Just dropped in to see if any needed their iPads changed for their girly bits?
Heh – my first programming was in Atari Basic on the Atari 800. Probably the most interesting thing I did there would be called a demoscene hack these days: it drew a line on the screen, bounced off the edges when it hit them, eventually building up a modestly hypnotic moire effect. This was short enough that I’d type it into demo machines in stores. I didn’t go much further at the time ’cause do to that generally meant learning machine code – and the learning resources we take for granted now weren’t readily available to lower-economic spectrum 11 year olds at that time.
Apple IIs at school (you had to get to the computer room early to get on one of the 2 IIes). Macs at Uni, including my first academic (drawing demographic maps in Illustrator on a tricked out SE/30) and IT (well – Macs and Sun workstations anyway) jobs. When I bought a computer as a student is was a Classic II, and got by with that, along with access to bigger machines at Uni/work for the few years when I adjusted from being a music/artsy type into being a reasonably well credentialed IT geek. So when I started programming again, it was mostly in a Unix environment, from a terminal program on a Mac. I too played with MkLinux and YellowDog; though the latter was a later development. I was into the BSD variants pretty much as soon as they were widely available and PC interest tended to focus on those. Even recently, had the old G4 powerbook running OpenBSD as a DNS relay (to do household ad-blocking) and transparent web proxy for a couple of years. I actually may reinstate that machine in that role, though more likely running some kind of Linux… it beats keeping ad-blockers on individual machines.
Since then, I guess, owned, or bought for my wife the following: G3 Powerbook, G4 “titanium” Powerbook, classic iMac, G4 iBook, original 17″ Macbook Pro, black Macbook 13″, a couple of iPods, 2 x iPhone 3GS, AppleTV 2.
That’s along with various PCs, including the fancy Asus laptop I’m typing on now. To be honest, while I’m very happy with it, on a laptop Win 7 is noticeably clunky compared with Snow Leopard. I’ve hopes that the touch-friendliness in Win 8 will inspire some nicer firmware for the trackpad, but don’t have high hopes there. And my next laptop will almost certainly be a Macbook or Macbook Pro, with the nice sounding Ivy Bridge Intel chips when they are available.
I think a lot of the folks who want to separate the marketing side from the tech side misunderstand the relationship between the two. I think the same folks will also tend to look at raw numbers denoting the hardware resources without understanding that is only part of what goes into making a computing environment. It’s not the speed of the CPU, but rather what you do with it that counts.
People talk about Woz being the real brains behind the early Apple. Really, he was a talented engineer with a hobbyist/hackish focus. Jobs had a grander vision. I like the story from the time the first Macs were being developed, complete with the OS, and Jobs spent a lot of time with the people working on the boot sequence. His line was that since they expected to sell a million units (seems a low expectation now), every extra second of boot time was collectively a million seconds taken away from customer’s lives. It’s that sort of focus on the end-user experience that took Apple where it’s gone. Some companies do user experience quite badly, but most do okay at it. FWIW, I think Microsoft are very good at it and have been since late 90s or so…. not so all the OEM makers of computers that happen to run Windows, of course. Apple really excelled at it from relatively early days, and Jobs is responsible for that.
And you know that this “PC vs Mac” theme even still exists, makes me sad about humanity. I guess even woodwork forums are full of raging debates of the relative merits of table saws and radial arm saws… I should probably make a token effort to dispel the somewhat ridiculous myth that Macs are less “geeky” (at conferences I have noted most Unix admins and ALL those from G**gle carried Mac laptops). But buying into it is just silly. You use the tools you’re comfortable with, and try new ones from time to time to see what the fuss is about.
Enough rant for a Saturday morning. Looks like the storm has blown over anyway.
Woz’ brilliance is/was in his ability to design things with the least number of necessary components. He designed the Apple I in his head – drew it and then made it. That’s off-the-scale genius. The Apple II is probably was probably the world’s most used computers and had an insane lifespan (16 years in constant production).
Also – fun fact. What’s the most commonly run application on Apple computers?
Microsoft Word.
(Apple II was all Woz as well)
“And you know that this “PC vs Mac” theme even still exists, makes me sad about humanity. I guess even woodwork forums are full of raging debates of the relative merits of table saws and radial arm saws…”
D-Yep the feud over radial arm saws V. table saws are blood curdlng. The ones about pc V. Apple Macintosh’s makes me laugh, god it’s entertaining because I don’t understand any of it. Like, at all. So it helps one see the investment of personal identity tied to ever evolving commodities.
But it’ll never beat the savage world of American knitting blogs unless computer users start brawling about “baby daddy one” , “baby daddy two” and “baby daddy three, the crack addict”.
not “tied to”, but “in”
Started with my Macintosh Plus in the early 1990′s. Didn’t like it as I was ten and wanted to play games; abandoned the Mac in 1995 and went to PC.
Have been reacquainted since I picked up my iPhone 3G in 2009; never looked back, now have a MacBook Pro and it’s the best computer I’ve owned in a decade.
Learned to touchtype on an old, old Mac (don’t even know what it was, it had a green and black screen)
RIP Steve Jobs.
Been to Sydney & back this W’end & was suprised, pleased and a bit touched to see the bouquets outside the ishop.
Off topic.
Always impressive The Reith Lectures this year have fkn rocked.
Dame Elizabeth ‘Eliza’ Manningham-Buller, Former Director General of the British security service, MI5.
The lectures have been very interesting but the questions from the floor after the lecture have been ++awsm.
++recommend the podcast, if only for the final 10 minutes.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2011/3334004.htm
Nbob, re the dame. Wasn’t she interesting! highly recommended, folks.